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		<title>By: Henry Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/1997/07/harum-scarum/comment-page-1/#comment-6000</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God is not a physicist, but there is a way to make physics, like religion, an unquestionable truth. Teach physics to our children before their brains have fully matured and the axioms of physics will be locked in without question, not subject to rational thought. Of course, this will be the end of our quest for the understanding of the physical universe, since it will also end any disagreement as to what it all means since knowledge will reside in those who have studied the sacred physics textbooks. Physics professors will become the new priests of our world, keepers of the immutable facts of the universe, effectively ending any future progress and probably civilization as we know it .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God is not a physicist, but there is a way to make physics, like religion, an unquestionable truth. Teach physics to our children before their brains have fully matured and the axioms of physics will be locked in without question, not subject to rational thought. Of course, this will be the end of our quest for the understanding of the physical universe, since it will also end any disagreement as to what it all means since knowledge will reside in those who have studied the sacred physics textbooks. Physics professors will become the new priests of our world, keepers of the immutable facts of the universe, effectively ending any future progress and probably civilization as we know it .</p>
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		<title>By: ArieS</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/1997/07/harum-scarum/comment-page-1/#comment-4622</link>
		<dc:creator>ArieS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what you say about 7th april?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what you say about 7th april?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric D. Camarena</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/1997/07/harum-scarum/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric D. Camarena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything in the bible about the HourGlass Prophecy?
If so, can you look up these years to see if they come up with this prophecy- 2001-2008 7yrs.(9/11) 2008-2012(Mayan Calender) 4yrs. 2013-2020 7yrs.(The End of Time.) I saw this in a vision the Lord gave me back in 2002, I didn&#039;t understand it at first. But now, I believe it has something to do with End of Times. Thanks Eric 210.777.3777 cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything in the bible about the HourGlass Prophecy?<br />
If so, can you look up these years to see if they come up with this prophecy- 2001-2008 7yrs.(9/11) 2008-2012(Mayan Calender) 4yrs. 2013-2020 7yrs.(The End of Time.) I saw this in a vision the Lord gave me back in 2002, I didn&#8217;t understand it at first. But now, I believe it has something to do with End of Times. Thanks Eric 210.777.3777 cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Scarry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Scarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey KD - 

Michael is probably to busy to answer you, especially since this review is over ten years old - old stuff already.  He probably didn&#039;t want to waste his time, so I did it a little bit for him.

I only looked at the osama link.  With &quot;Bush&quot;, you conveniently skipped a letter only between the B and the U.  With &quot;Laden&quot;, the letters are out of ordre.  I found Reagan - in order with no skips - starting from the R of Reuben (more on presidents later).  

You found &quot;Sept&quot; and &quot;eleventh&quot;, both touching the last A of osama (which was also out of oredr until you conveniently slipped an &quot;a&quot; into the right place).  I found the following months also out of order in the tribal names section (starting letter in parentheses):  

Aug (A of Gad)
Novem (N of Simeon)
Jan (J of Benjamin)
June (same J)

But the best one is Apr for April (1st A in Manasses) - not only in order, but that &quot;A&quot; is actually the 2nd &quot;A&quot; of your Osama - not only next to it, but right in it!  

As far as your &quot;eleventh&quot; goes, what about &quot;seventh&quot; (1st OR 2nd S of Issachar - and I didn&#039;t have to skip empty boxes in your grid like you did to start with the E of chrysolite!).  Not in order, there&#039;s also tenth (T of Nepthalim) and ninth (N of Manasses), which can even be expanded to nineteenth.  But seventeenth, like seven, can be spelled IN ORDER - WOW!!  And from two different S&#039;s!  I would say that that shows that April 7th or 17th have a much stronger connection - what happened then?

By the way, I found Nixon - skipping letters and spaces - in the line above Osama and extending to the line below him - in the shape of a cross fallen to the left, like this:

     O

N    X           N

     I

and you can even start from either N!  Unbelievable!!

But I think that the best encoded name I found is...

YOURS!

Mains (M of Menasses).  Not in order, but no skips.  Not once or twice, but FOUR different ways.  Three of them are all on the tribal name side, sharing the last two letters of Osama (!), and the fourth extends back into the gemstones through your inserted A and including Osama&#039;s S, meaning that you share a MAJORITY of letters with OSAMA!!  Either that means that Revelations hints that you would be the one to reveal this great code, or maybe you&#039;re more connected to this whole story than you&#039;re letting on...

Actually, if you take your name as found in 

MANASSES
SIMEON

it&#039;s the letters MAN of MANASSES
             and SI of SIMEON.

The MEON remaining from SIMEON rearranges to spell OMEN (and NEMO, for that matter).  Actually, rearranging SI gives you IS, together with OMEN is IS OMEN.  I&#039;m not sure what the significance is of what&#039;s left over in the other name, but I don&#039;t think that the joke here IS ON ME...

While we&#039;re on your name, I didn&#039;t find KD, because there&#039;s no K at all in your grid (except for the whole alphabet that you conveniently inserted to help you find Bush).  BTW, the K is one of only five letters absent from your grid - the others being F Q V and W.  

But let&#039;s not despair in finding some significance here, too.  In Islam, an inalienable religious endowment (like a common law trust in the West) is called a &quot;waqf&quot; (or &quot;wakf&quot; - both spellings came up when Googled).  Ignoring the vowel A, that&#039;s all of the absent letters - W K Q F - except for V.  Now V is the 22nd letter of the alphabet, and if you subtract 1 for the A here too, you get 21, which is the date of the Allied attack on Iraq!

But not only that - the first two absent letters - F and the K of your name - have positions in the alphabet of 6 and 11 respectively.  6 x 11 = 66.  Put the 6 back in front of the 66 and you have 666, just like you have in your grid.  Flip the 6 over to give you a 9, and with the 11, you have 9/11!!  So many connections, if you just look hard enough...  

I&#039;ll try to get to Diana when I have some more free time.

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For more on the validity of Bible Codes, see

http://www.talkreason.org/articles/elyash.cfm

and other articles there by Mark Perakh and others (search Drosnin).

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BTW, Prof. Shermer, great review.  Wish I&#039;d seen it before I went to the Aish Discovery Seminar (they took out the codes from their presentation not too ago).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey KD &#8211; </p>
<p>Michael is probably to busy to answer you, especially since this review is over ten years old &#8211; old stuff already.  He probably didn&#8217;t want to waste his time, so I did it a little bit for him.</p>
<p>I only looked at the osama link.  With &#8220;Bush&#8221;, you conveniently skipped a letter only between the B and the U.  With &#8220;Laden&#8221;, the letters are out of ordre.  I found Reagan &#8211; in order with no skips &#8211; starting from the R of Reuben (more on presidents later).  </p>
<p>You found &#8220;Sept&#8221; and &#8220;eleventh&#8221;, both touching the last A of osama (which was also out of oredr until you conveniently slipped an &#8220;a&#8221; into the right place).  I found the following months also out of order in the tribal names section (starting letter in parentheses):  </p>
<p>Aug (A of Gad)<br />
Novem (N of Simeon)<br />
Jan (J of Benjamin)<br />
June (same J)</p>
<p>But the best one is Apr for April (1st A in Manasses) &#8211; not only in order, but that &#8220;A&#8221; is actually the 2nd &#8220;A&#8221; of your Osama &#8211; not only next to it, but right in it!  </p>
<p>As far as your &#8220;eleventh&#8221; goes, what about &#8220;seventh&#8221; (1st OR 2nd S of Issachar &#8211; and I didn&#8217;t have to skip empty boxes in your grid like you did to start with the E of chrysolite!).  Not in order, there&#8217;s also tenth (T of Nepthalim) and ninth (N of Manasses), which can even be expanded to nineteenth.  But seventeenth, like seven, can be spelled IN ORDER &#8211; WOW!!  And from two different S&#8217;s!  I would say that that shows that April 7th or 17th have a much stronger connection &#8211; what happened then?</p>
<p>By the way, I found Nixon &#8211; skipping letters and spaces &#8211; in the line above Osama and extending to the line below him &#8211; in the shape of a cross fallen to the left, like this:</p>
<p>     O</p>
<p>N    X           N</p>
<p>     I</p>
<p>and you can even start from either N!  Unbelievable!!</p>
<p>But I think that the best encoded name I found is&#8230;</p>
<p>YOURS!</p>
<p>Mains (M of Menasses).  Not in order, but no skips.  Not once or twice, but FOUR different ways.  Three of them are all on the tribal name side, sharing the last two letters of Osama (!), and the fourth extends back into the gemstones through your inserted A and including Osama&#8217;s S, meaning that you share a MAJORITY of letters with OSAMA!!  Either that means that Revelations hints that you would be the one to reveal this great code, or maybe you&#8217;re more connected to this whole story than you&#8217;re letting on&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, if you take your name as found in </p>
<p>MANASSES<br />
SIMEON</p>
<p>it&#8217;s the letters MAN of MANASSES<br />
             and SI of SIMEON.</p>
<p>The MEON remaining from SIMEON rearranges to spell OMEN (and NEMO, for that matter).  Actually, rearranging SI gives you IS, together with OMEN is IS OMEN.  I&#8217;m not sure what the significance is of what&#8217;s left over in the other name, but I don&#8217;t think that the joke here IS ON ME&#8230;</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re on your name, I didn&#8217;t find KD, because there&#8217;s no K at all in your grid (except for the whole alphabet that you conveniently inserted to help you find Bush).  BTW, the K is one of only five letters absent from your grid &#8211; the others being F Q V and W.  </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not despair in finding some significance here, too.  In Islam, an inalienable religious endowment (like a common law trust in the West) is called a &#8220;waqf&#8221; (or &#8220;wakf&#8221; &#8211; both spellings came up when Googled).  Ignoring the vowel A, that&#8217;s all of the absent letters &#8211; W K Q F &#8211; except for V.  Now V is the 22nd letter of the alphabet, and if you subtract 1 for the A here too, you get 21, which is the date of the Allied attack on Iraq!</p>
<p>But not only that &#8211; the first two absent letters &#8211; F and the K of your name &#8211; have positions in the alphabet of 6 and 11 respectively.  6 x 11 = 66.  Put the 6 back in front of the 66 and you have 666, just like you have in your grid.  Flip the 6 over to give you a 9, and with the 11, you have 9/11!!  So many connections, if you just look hard enough&#8230;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to get to Diana when I have some more free time.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>For more on the validity of Bible Codes, see</p>
<p><a href="http://www.talkreason.org/articles/elyash.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkreason.org/articles/elyash.cfm</a></p>
<p>and other articles there by Mark Perakh and others (search Drosnin).</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>BTW, Prof. Shermer, great review.  Wish I&#8217;d seen it before I went to the Aish Discovery Seminar (they took out the codes from their presentation not too ago).</p>
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		<title>By: K D Mains</title>
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		<dc:creator>K D Mains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michael


What do you make of this &gt;

http://kd-mains.com/osama-bin-laden-revelations.htm

http://kd-mains.com/princess-diana-dodi-revelations.htm

Two of my &quot;Book of Revelations&quot; decodings

Can you dismiss my findings as easily as Drosnin&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael</p>
<p>What do you make of this &gt;</p>
<p><a href="http://kd-mains.com/osama-bin-laden-revelations.htm" rel="nofollow">http://kd-mains.com/osama-bin-laden-revelations.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://kd-mains.com/princess-diana-dodi-revelations.htm" rel="nofollow">http://kd-mains.com/princess-diana-dodi-revelations.htm</a></p>
<p>Two of my &#8220;Book of Revelations&#8221; decodings</p>
<p>Can you dismiss my findings as easily as Drosnin&#8217;s?</p>
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