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	<title>Comments on: The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: One Word</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2007/09/911-conspiracies-fact-or-fiction-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3077</link>
		<dc:creator>One Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nano-Thermite - Government did it, the science isn&#039;t going away, case closed. Wake-up, get angry, seek justice and do not let evil go unchecked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nano-Thermite &#8211; Government did it, the science isn&#8217;t going away, case closed. Wake-up, get angry, seek justice and do not let evil go unchecked.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobias Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nothing new about this particular conspiracy theory. The same patterns emerge all over the place, covering a huge array of world-changing events. The main one I became most fascinated with is the alternative theories concerning the death of the Princess of Wales (Princess Diana) in 1997. 

The main problem with trying to prove an alternate theory to an event is first in the wording of the theory or idea. Most conspiracy theories state that something (usually the official account) did NOT happen. Right away we find that we are trying to do the impossible - proving a negative. It is impossible to prove that something did not take place. First, your theory must be a positive one. Such as: &quot;I believe X happened&quot; and then evidence must be sought to support your claim. Attempting to debunk or finding problems with the official account does not count as any support for an alternate theory. Debunking theory A does not prove theory B to be correct, or C, or even D. 

A good example is the Moon Landing conspiracy. The theory goes that &quot;Man did NOT land on the moon&quot;. So conspiracy theorists go and point out apparent problems and defects in the evidence that supports the official account and claims that this supports their so-called &#039;theory&#039;. This is not a scientific way of understanding what is true in our universe.

I do find it amusing how all of a sudden regular people are all of a sudden construction engineering experts in relation to the collapse of the towers. As if this sort of thing happens everyday. It is an almost singular and unusual event and yet people proclaim that a 747 could not cause the collapse of such a building! How could you possibly know this?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nothing new about this particular conspiracy theory. The same patterns emerge all over the place, covering a huge array of world-changing events. The main one I became most fascinated with is the alternative theories concerning the death of the Princess of Wales (Princess Diana) in 1997. </p>
<p>The main problem with trying to prove an alternate theory to an event is first in the wording of the theory or idea. Most conspiracy theories state that something (usually the official account) did NOT happen. Right away we find that we are trying to do the impossible &#8211; proving a negative. It is impossible to prove that something did not take place. First, your theory must be a positive one. Such as: &#8220;I believe X happened&#8221; and then evidence must be sought to support your claim. Attempting to debunk or finding problems with the official account does not count as any support for an alternate theory. Debunking theory A does not prove theory B to be correct, or C, or even D. </p>
<p>A good example is the Moon Landing conspiracy. The theory goes that &#8220;Man did NOT land on the moon&#8221;. So conspiracy theorists go and point out apparent problems and defects in the evidence that supports the official account and claims that this supports their so-called &#8216;theory&#8217;. This is not a scientific way of understanding what is true in our universe.</p>
<p>I do find it amusing how all of a sudden regular people are all of a sudden construction engineering experts in relation to the collapse of the towers. As if this sort of thing happens everyday. It is an almost singular and unusual event and yet people proclaim that a 747 could not cause the collapse of such a building! How could you possibly know this?!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2007/09/911-conspiracies-fact-or-fiction-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems to miss the main point. We are told a story that has a million holes in it, is inconsistant between &quot;experts&quot; and those involved (i.e. Larry Silverstein and 9/11 commission), and the information that could easily clear up everything is tucked into a vault. Or under this administration, just like the Ohio votes, the info is just disposed of.

In the meantime we lose certain rights, give the current administration the power to do whatever they please, and do not make them accountable for any mistakes.

This has nothing to do with &quot;conspiracy&quot; or any type of coping technique; it has to do with abstract thought and not believing whatever comes from the mouth of the media. 

If you were told your dog spontaniously combusted in a bank, this would raise some pretty normal questions. For ex. 1. Why/how did it just explode? 2. Why was it in a bank? 3. Why am I not allowed to see the video tapes that prove your story?

If the official story was that your dog wondered in there because it was following someone eating a sandwhich and ate some alka seltzer, this would seem quite peculiar. Especially, if a bank guard is standing there with a smoking gun? 

Simple solution is that banks have a lot of camera&#039;s and it should be our right to view all the feeds from that exact moment to get the truth with our own eyes. If you would not supply that, then most people would take that as an admission of guilt. It is nothing &#039;far fetched&#039;, just a common sense reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to miss the main point. We are told a story that has a million holes in it, is inconsistant between &#8220;experts&#8221; and those involved (i.e. Larry Silverstein and 9/11 commission), and the information that could easily clear up everything is tucked into a vault. Or under this administration, just like the Ohio votes, the info is just disposed of.</p>
<p>In the meantime we lose certain rights, give the current administration the power to do whatever they please, and do not make them accountable for any mistakes.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; or any type of coping technique; it has to do with abstract thought and not believing whatever comes from the mouth of the media. </p>
<p>If you were told your dog spontaniously combusted in a bank, this would raise some pretty normal questions. For ex. 1. Why/how did it just explode? 2. Why was it in a bank? 3. Why am I not allowed to see the video tapes that prove your story?</p>
<p>If the official story was that your dog wondered in there because it was following someone eating a sandwhich and ate some alka seltzer, this would seem quite peculiar. Especially, if a bank guard is standing there with a smoking gun? </p>
<p>Simple solution is that banks have a lot of camera&#8217;s and it should be our right to view all the feeds from that exact moment to get the truth with our own eyes. If you would not supply that, then most people would take that as an admission of guilt. It is nothing &#8216;far fetched&#8217;, just a common sense reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: PodBlack Cat &#124; Women and Superstitions - Part Three</title>
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		<dc:creator>PodBlack Cat &#124; Women and Superstitions - Part Three</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are leaving their cause. e-Skeptic are following on from a rather significant amount of material (such as their featured videos on ths issue of 9/11 conspiracies) to address the primarily Internet-based efforts promoting ideas that the towers fell due to other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GeneralTHC</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeneralTHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point, John. I am not saying you&#039;re right, but I do believe it&#039;s an undeniable fact that Americans are endowed with a sense of patriotism/nationalism that is like no other country, be it by school teachers, Preachers, Parents, Community leaders etc. I guess you could make an argument for N. Korea or Iran but I am not really talking about in that fashion, or am I? I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point, John. I am not saying you&#8217;re right, but I do believe it&#8217;s an undeniable fact that Americans are endowed with a sense of patriotism/nationalism that is like no other country, be it by school teachers, Preachers, Parents, Community leaders etc. I guess you could make an argument for N. Korea or Iran but I am not really talking about in that fashion, or am I? I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shermer states in this first video and in other sources that those of us who don&#039;t believe the official story behind 9/11 have set up some sort of mental buffer to cope with what happened - that we need to believe there is some sort of larger conspiracy behind what happened because to believe the attacks were the simply the result of a small group of radicals is too far out for our (presumably fragile) minds to believe.

Couldn&#039;t we say the same about people who accept the official story without question? Wouldn&#039;t it actually make more sense to state that those who DO trust that their gov&#039;t is incapable of malevolence need some sort of coping mechanism. After all, it&#039;s much more comforting to believe in your gov&#039;t as a benevolent protector - right?

If nothing else, look at Enron. I think we can all agree on the fact that here was a large and powerful entity where corruption existed at the top echelon. So if this can happen at Enron, why is it too far out to believe the same behavior could exist in another large and powerful entity?

One other thing. Shermer compares 9/11 truthers to Holocaust deniers. Actually, aren&#039;t the good Germans who denied that the Holocaust was happening, as it was happening, more comparable to the good patriotic American&#039;s who refuse to believe their gov&#039;t could possibly be capable of anything malevolent. Fortunately, many of this Adminstrations lies (i.e. no WMDs in Iraq) have come to light. How many hidden lies still exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shermer states in this first video and in other sources that those of us who don&#8217;t believe the official story behind 9/11 have set up some sort of mental buffer to cope with what happened &#8211; that we need to believe there is some sort of larger conspiracy behind what happened because to believe the attacks were the simply the result of a small group of radicals is too far out for our (presumably fragile) minds to believe.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t we say the same about people who accept the official story without question? Wouldn&#8217;t it actually make more sense to state that those who DO trust that their gov&#8217;t is incapable of malevolence need some sort of coping mechanism. After all, it&#8217;s much more comforting to believe in your gov&#8217;t as a benevolent protector &#8211; right?</p>
<p>If nothing else, look at Enron. I think we can all agree on the fact that here was a large and powerful entity where corruption existed at the top echelon. So if this can happen at Enron, why is it too far out to believe the same behavior could exist in another large and powerful entity?</p>
<p>One other thing. Shermer compares 9/11 truthers to Holocaust deniers. Actually, aren&#8217;t the good Germans who denied that the Holocaust was happening, as it was happening, more comparable to the good patriotic American&#8217;s who refuse to believe their gov&#8217;t could possibly be capable of anything malevolent. Fortunately, many of this Adminstrations lies (i.e. no WMDs in Iraq) have come to light. How many hidden lies still exist?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United States government or Mossad Agents (rather Jewish people) are not responsible for the September 11th attacks. I am amazed by the stupidity of all the conspiracy theorist. They pride themselves in being smart and free-thinkers. How are you a free-thinker if you derive your opinion from somebody else&#039;s opinion? Why not base it on the facts and common sense. You have Osama Bin Laden saying he was responsible for the attacks. &quot;I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers … I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers … with the raids.&quot;  If any politicians deserve the blame it&#039;s former presidents Jimmy Carter (Iranian Hostage Crisis) and Bill Clinton (first bombing of the World Trade Center and the bombing of the USS Cole). If Carter had shown a sign of force in 1979 it would not have been open season on America. I must admit Clinton did make an attempt at defending America. He bombed a milk-crate factory and said after the September 11th attacks that he should have gotten him (Osama bin laden) when he had the chance. You think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States government or Mossad Agents (rather Jewish people) are not responsible for the September 11th attacks. I am amazed by the stupidity of all the conspiracy theorist. They pride themselves in being smart and free-thinkers. How are you a free-thinker if you derive your opinion from somebody else&#8217;s opinion? Why not base it on the facts and common sense. You have Osama Bin Laden saying he was responsible for the attacks. &#8220;I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers … I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers … with the raids.&#8221;  If any politicians deserve the blame it&#8217;s former presidents Jimmy Carter (Iranian Hostage Crisis) and Bill Clinton (first bombing of the World Trade Center and the bombing of the USS Cole). If Carter had shown a sign of force in 1979 it would not have been open season on America. I must admit Clinton did make an attempt at defending America. He bombed a milk-crate factory and said after the September 11th attacks that he should have gotten him (Osama bin laden) when he had the chance. You think?</p>
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		<title>By: Women and Superstitions - Part Three &#171; PodBlack Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Women and Superstitions - Part Three &#171; PodBlack Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: P. Pfalzner</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. Pfalzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What caused the collapse of the 3rd building at the WTC plaza several hours after the collapse of the twin towers? This was a much smaller building on the site some distance away from the towers, perhaps 10 stories high - it imploded in the same manner as the two towers. 
I believe it may have been called a &quot;Service Bldg&quot;, and some reports I have seen say it was occupied by CIA officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What caused the collapse of the 3rd building at the WTC plaza several hours after the collapse of the twin towers? This was a much smaller building on the site some distance away from the towers, perhaps 10 stories high &#8211; it imploded in the same manner as the two towers.<br />
I believe it may have been called a &#8220;Service Bldg&#8221;, and some reports I have seen say it was occupied by CIA officers.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam McDaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam McDaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best thing out there about all the nonsense claims about 9/11 is the video &quot;Screw Loose Change&quot; which answers all the claims by the mockumentary &quot;Loose Change&quot; point by point.    A good overall website is: http://www.911myths.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best thing out there about all the nonsense claims about 9/11 is the video &#8220;Screw Loose Change&#8221; which answers all the claims by the mockumentary &#8220;Loose Change&#8221; point by point.    A good overall website is: <a href="http://www.911myths.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.911myths.com/</a></p>
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