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	<title>Comments on: Scientology, Anonymous</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Rodha</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-7176</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Rodha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, what&#039;s your point? Do you want to denounce the unfairness of anonymous position or the weirdness nature of scientology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, what&#8217;s your point? Do you want to denounce the unfairness of anonymous position or the weirdness nature of scientology?</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-6386</link>
		<dc:creator>Konrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 06:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that society is not ready to accept things that in SCN are quite normal.

1) SCNists KNOW that they have had past lives;
2) SCN auditing can create a stable Out of Body experiences (exteriorization);
3) SCN can help increase those perceptions that would deemed &quot;psychic or paranormal.&quot;
4) SCN technology has the ability to actually change events.

This I have experienced myself all of these things.

I wish that rational people would actually look at the evidence instead having a preconceived notion that they know people are ONLY one time bodies. THis is simply not true.

Also most people on the internet are so thoroughly caught up in the disinformation of the religion that they cannot carry on a sane conversation about the subject.

IF actual OPEN minded Scientists examined the data instead of having an agenda the world would see that the religion could change the world &amp; make it a sane place for everyone, even the skeptics &amp; nay Sayers.

best wishes
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that society is not ready to accept things that in SCN are quite normal.</p>
<p>1) SCNists KNOW that they have had past lives;<br />
2) SCN auditing can create a stable Out of Body experiences (exteriorization);<br />
3) SCN can help increase those perceptions that would deemed &#8220;psychic or paranormal.&#8221;<br />
4) SCN technology has the ability to actually change events.</p>
<p>This I have experienced myself all of these things.</p>
<p>I wish that rational people would actually look at the evidence instead having a preconceived notion that they know people are ONLY one time bodies. THis is simply not true.</p>
<p>Also most people on the internet are so thoroughly caught up in the disinformation of the religion that they cannot carry on a sane conversation about the subject.</p>
<p>IF actual OPEN minded Scientists examined the data instead of having an agenda the world would see that the religion could change the world &amp; make it a sane place for everyone, even the skeptics &amp; nay Sayers.</p>
<p>best wishes<br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: LOL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 04:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg hit the nail on the head. Scientology is a SCAM. It&#039;s a front. They are not a legitimate religion. Also, read Hubbard&#039;s (founder) journals. He was a RACIST. And he says clearly that he created it to make money and have power. 

So your substitution technique does not work here. FAIL.

I HATE Scientology. HONK HONK HONK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg hit the nail on the head. Scientology is a SCAM. It&#8217;s a front. They are not a legitimate religion. Also, read Hubbard&#8217;s (founder) journals. He was a RACIST. And he says clearly that he created it to make money and have power. </p>
<p>So your substitution technique does not work here. FAIL.</p>
<p>I HATE Scientology. HONK HONK HONK!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenn Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-6232</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenn Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Wish Is Your Command is a course sold by Kevin Trudeau. No one can say that he is not a compelling salesman and his infomercials hawking various products are legendary. This latest product targets the natural desire for wealth that most people obsess about while also pushing conspiracy theories that blame &quot;secret societies&quot; for keeping the secret of wealth and prosperity from the masses.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yourwisheisyourcommand.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Your Wish Is Your Command&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Wish Is Your Command is a course sold by Kevin Trudeau. No one can say that he is not a compelling salesman and his infomercials hawking various products are legendary. This latest product targets the natural desire for wealth that most people obsess about while also pushing conspiracy theories that blame &#8220;secret societies&#8221; for keeping the secret of wealth and prosperity from the masses.<a href="http://www.yourwisheisyourcommand.com" rel="nofollow">Your Wish Is Your Command</a></p>
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		<title>By: R King</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-4349</link>
		<dc:creator>R King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Stargazer writes &#039;listen to your heart and not your head&#039; on a skeptical site . . . I think that&#039;s pretty funny . . . It&#039;d be like me going on a Christian site and writing &#039;try not to be so flipping irrational&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Stargazer writes &#8216;listen to your heart and not your head&#8217; on a skeptical site . . . I think that&#8217;s pretty funny . . . It&#8217;d be like me going on a Christian site and writing &#8216;try not to be so flipping irrational&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: ungodly</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>ungodly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to Hubbardianen: 
yes very interesting, but its the writings of a science fiction author. its not the answer to the universe. he might be close, or he might be way off, but the truth, can only be known once we are dead.  

regardless of how interesting these superstitions/beliefs/delusions are, to make money off, or to otherwise corrupt people for the benefit of a few at the top, shows that as spiritual beings, we have no limits to our cruelty to our fellow thetans, or souls, or whatever, and there is also no limit to our ability to believe in the most ludicrous of propositions.

i also believe its immoral to not be anti-semite, to believe that you are chosen by an all powerful zombie, and by default, all others are lesser beings, well thats just plain evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to Hubbardianen:<br />
yes very interesting, but its the writings of a science fiction author. its not the answer to the universe. he might be close, or he might be way off, but the truth, can only be known once we are dead.  </p>
<p>regardless of how interesting these superstitions/beliefs/delusions are, to make money off, or to otherwise corrupt people for the benefit of a few at the top, shows that as spiritual beings, we have no limits to our cruelty to our fellow thetans, or souls, or whatever, and there is also no limit to our ability to believe in the most ludicrous of propositions.</p>
<p>i also believe its immoral to not be anti-semite, to believe that you are chosen by an all powerful zombie, and by default, all others are lesser beings, well thats just plain evil.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Adelsburg</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-4174</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Adelsburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re comparing a corporation responsible for the deaths, broken up families and poverty of so many people to Jews? Never knew you to be an anti semite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re comparing a corporation responsible for the deaths, broken up families and poverty of so many people to Jews? Never knew you to be an anti semite.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubbardianen</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-4173</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubbardianen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are (more or less wild) speculations that the date of 65 million years regarding the dinosaur extinction is wrong since the (alleged) nuclear bombs added lots of radioactivity.

When dating the K/T-layer with some kind of radioactive isotop dating method there are more radioactivity than it should be, thus the 65 million-year-date is wrong and should be further back, perhaps more cloer to 75 million years?

However, I do not know if nuclear radioactivity would affect radioactive dating techniques in that way. Perhaps somebody with more knowledge could confirm/deny this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are (more or less wild) speculations that the date of 65 million years regarding the dinosaur extinction is wrong since the (alleged) nuclear bombs added lots of radioactivity.</p>
<p>When dating the K/T-layer with some kind of radioactive isotop dating method there are more radioactivity than it should be, thus the 65 million-year-date is wrong and should be further back, perhaps more cloer to 75 million years?</p>
<p>However, I do not know if nuclear radioactivity would affect radioactive dating techniques in that way. Perhaps somebody with more knowledge could confirm/deny this?</p>
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		<title>By: Hubbardianen</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelshermer.com/2008/02/scientology-anonymous/comment-page-3/#comment-4172</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubbardianen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Swedish Scientologist. First and foremost, I would like you to differentiate between the Church of Scientology (CoS) and the philosophy of Scientology, two different things as of today. The CoS doesn&#039;t function well today mainly because of a dictatorial leader called David Miscavige.

The philosophy however is the most interesting I&#039;ve come across so far and incorporates the basic ideas that man is a spiritual being (thetan) with no location in space or time but with the ability to postulate. We, as spiritual beings, live life after life and live our lives. There&#039;s something called the reactive mind where unconsciousness, disemotions etc are stored and which can be restimulated. Therefore, in auditing these incidents are viewed over and over again until they blow and the energy is released, which can be observed on the E-meter and also be felt very clearly. I&#039;ve done auditing myself.

Regarding reincarnation, let me present to you three very interesting YouTube videos. Feel free to debunk them.

Reincarnated WWII pilot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA

Reincarnated painter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_j-chZvR0

Reincarnated general:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHp9bGVDB8

Regarding the Xenu story, is it true? Who knows? But some interesting scientific evidence has come forward in the matter. Layers of Iridium and shocked quartz have been found in the K/T-layer (65 million years ago). Iridium of that quantity is only found in asteroids and vulcanos, and shocked quartz is only found at nuclear sites or asteroids.

Hubbard claims that nuclear bombs was dropped into volcanoes about 75 million years ago which support the Iridium/shocked quartz findings from the K/T-layer 65 million years ago. However, Hubbard did not know about the Iridium in the K/T-layer since it was found in the 80&#039;s, and Hubbard wrote the OT III story in 1967. This is very interesting. Could it be that the 65 million year dinosaur extinction is the same catastrophe Hubbard described at 75 million years ago? I welcome more research in this subject.

Well, there&#039;s lost more to say about this but I&#039;ve got to tell you, Scientology is the only religion that (basically) doesn&#039;t go against scientific evidence such as many other religions does.

I like skeptics, it&#039;s just that they sometimes are a little bit closed minded regarding the spiritual world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Swedish Scientologist. First and foremost, I would like you to differentiate between the Church of Scientology (CoS) and the philosophy of Scientology, two different things as of today. The CoS doesn&#8217;t function well today mainly because of a dictatorial leader called David Miscavige.</p>
<p>The philosophy however is the most interesting I&#8217;ve come across so far and incorporates the basic ideas that man is a spiritual being (thetan) with no location in space or time but with the ability to postulate. We, as spiritual beings, live life after life and live our lives. There&#8217;s something called the reactive mind where unconsciousness, disemotions etc are stored and which can be restimulated. Therefore, in auditing these incidents are viewed over and over again until they blow and the energy is released, which can be observed on the E-meter and also be felt very clearly. I&#8217;ve done auditing myself.</p>
<p>Regarding reincarnation, let me present to you three very interesting YouTube videos. Feel free to debunk them.</p>
<p>Reincarnated WWII pilot:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA</a></p>
<p>Reincarnated painter:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_j-chZvR0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_j-chZvR0</a></p>
<p>Reincarnated general:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHp9bGVDB8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHp9bGVDB8</a></p>
<p>Regarding the Xenu story, is it true? Who knows? But some interesting scientific evidence has come forward in the matter. Layers of Iridium and shocked quartz have been found in the K/T-layer (65 million years ago). Iridium of that quantity is only found in asteroids and vulcanos, and shocked quartz is only found at nuclear sites or asteroids.</p>
<p>Hubbard claims that nuclear bombs was dropped into volcanoes about 75 million years ago which support the Iridium/shocked quartz findings from the K/T-layer 65 million years ago. However, Hubbard did not know about the Iridium in the K/T-layer since it was found in the 80&#8242;s, and Hubbard wrote the OT III story in 1967. This is very interesting. Could it be that the 65 million year dinosaur extinction is the same catastrophe Hubbard described at 75 million years ago? I welcome more research in this subject.</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s lost more to say about this but I&#8217;ve got to tell you, Scientology is the only religion that (basically) doesn&#8217;t go against scientific evidence such as many other religions does.</p>
<p>I like skeptics, it&#8217;s just that they sometimes are a little bit closed minded regarding the spiritual world.</p>
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		<title>By: jaxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 02:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time is a great story teller and you mr writer are complete fail in regards. !000&#039;s of ex members are saying abuse has been carried out and your an apologist just because your mind can&#039;t grab the concept that &quot;religion&quot; is just a sound-byte when it comes to this cult. Look at it from a different perspective. We are standing up to the nazis and you are protecting the world from seeing the crimes against the jews. Did you ever consider that scenario? Well lurk moar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is a great story teller and you mr writer are complete fail in regards. !000&#8242;s of ex members are saying abuse has been carried out and your an apologist just because your mind can&#8217;t grab the concept that &#8220;religion&#8221; is just a sound-byte when it comes to this cult. Look at it from a different perspective. We are standing up to the nazis and you are protecting the world from seeing the crimes against the jews. Did you ever consider that scenario? Well lurk moar.</p>
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