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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no need to be disrespectful about the existence of spirits. What I find hard to believe is that more people believe in God than they do spirits. Hate to break it to you but there&#039;s more evidence of spirits than there is God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no need to be disrespectful about the existence of spirits. What I find hard to believe is that more people believe in God than they do spirits. Hate to break it to you but there&#8217;s more evidence of spirits than there is God.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Westmoreland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Westmoreland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello I am a true psychic medium I can actually talk to the dead and prove it. I do use a ghost box also or regular recoding but the results I get are just plain mind blowing. I have a youtube site it is youtube.com/lunaticn2006 check it out every thing on there is 100 percent real nothing I have is faked or edited. I do not charge people to talk to any one also that is another major difference between me and him.I have evidence of any thing from orbs to rods to aliens to spirits to Heaven and Hell. If any one would really like to contact a past love one or just some one that has passed away then please get in touch with me off my youtube site. Thank you all for reading and God bless have a wonderful day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello I am a true psychic medium I can actually talk to the dead and prove it. I do use a ghost box also or regular recoding but the results I get are just plain mind blowing. I have a youtube site it is youtube.com/lunaticn2006 check it out every thing on there is 100 percent real nothing I have is faked or edited. I do not charge people to talk to any one also that is another major difference between me and him.I have evidence of any thing from orbs to rods to aliens to spirits to Heaven and Hell. If any one would really like to contact a past love one or just some one that has passed away then please get in touch with me off my youtube site. Thank you all for reading and God bless have a wonderful day.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one thing I forgot. I wasn&#039;t surprised to see Chris Moon on Paranormal State. Cause those guys are a bunch of idiots too. EVERY single episode they say, during dead time (Which they ripped off of the Exorcism of Emily Rose) &quot;IF there&#039;s someone here give us a sign. Then there&#039;s a Knock. there&#039;s no frickin way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one thing I forgot. I wasn&#8217;t surprised to see Chris Moon on Paranormal State. Cause those guys are a bunch of idiots too. EVERY single episode they say, during dead time (Which they ripped off of the Exorcism of Emily Rose) &#8220;IF there&#8217;s someone here give us a sign. Then there&#8217;s a Knock. there&#8217;s no frickin way!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have personally witnessed Chris Moon using Frank Sumption&#039;s box on two occasions. It is total crap. it&#039;s just something that cycles through the radio stations really fast and he has to sit with you and interpret what the &quot;spirits&quot; are saying. I was sad to see he was charging suckers $90 a session. When I saw him a few years ago he was &quot;only&quot; charging $40. I think a few people took him up on it.
This was at a ghost hunting class where he still talked about orbs, AKA dust, as being spirits. He also kept saying he had all this evidence like pictures of scratches on him from spirits, but did not show us this evidence. He&#039;s a total hack and I wouldn&#039;t go near him.
My uncle is looking for a way to make some money. I told him to buy a run down house and spread rumors that it is haunted. Then he can do like the shuckster in Villisca Iowa does and charge $300 to spend the night in a &quot;haunted&quot; house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have personally witnessed Chris Moon using Frank Sumption&#8217;s box on two occasions. It is total crap. it&#8217;s just something that cycles through the radio stations really fast and he has to sit with you and interpret what the &#8220;spirits&#8221; are saying. I was sad to see he was charging suckers $90 a session. When I saw him a few years ago he was &#8220;only&#8221; charging $40. I think a few people took him up on it.<br />
This was at a ghost hunting class where he still talked about orbs, AKA dust, as being spirits. He also kept saying he had all this evidence like pictures of scratches on him from spirits, but did not show us this evidence. He&#8217;s a total hack and I wouldn&#8217;t go near him.<br />
My uncle is looking for a way to make some money. I told him to buy a run down house and spread rumors that it is haunted. Then he can do like the shuckster in Villisca Iowa does and charge $300 to spend the night in a &#8220;haunted&#8221; house.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My session with the Frank&#039;s Box was full of surprises, from the awe in my dad&#039;s voice when we contacted him to specific answers to questions answered only in a way what was typical of my dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My session with the Frank&#8217;s Box was full of surprises, from the awe in my dad&#8217;s voice when we contacted him to specific answers to questions answered only in a way what was typical of my dad.</p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the ghost box works for a fact I am not sure with Chris but i know I can talk to the dead on it. I have talked to multiple past love ones and friends for people I know. They all call me the ghost whisperer. I can prove that spirits exist and there is a heaven and hell. Please check out my videos and you will see what I mean I only have a very small percentage of any of the evidence I have posted any where online. If any one would like me to talk to some one for them please send me message on youtube. Well that is all I have to say looking forward to some responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the ghost box works for a fact I am not sure with Chris but i know I can talk to the dead on it. I have talked to multiple past love ones and friends for people I know. They all call me the ghost whisperer. I can prove that spirits exist and there is a heaven and hell. Please check out my videos and you will see what I mean I only have a very small percentage of any of the evidence I have posted any where online. If any one would like me to talk to some one for them please send me message on youtube. Well that is all I have to say looking forward to some responses.</p>
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		<title>By: Baloney Detective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baloney Detective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ate two bean burritos about an hour ago and i think the dead are talking out of my butt. However, all they can say is &quot;brrroppp!&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ate two bean burritos about an hour ago and i think the dead are talking out of my butt. However, all they can say is &#8220;brrroppp!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as long as we do not know the limits of the human mind, and I guess we never will do, such things will always be open to speculation and argument.  
Even some of those ITC pictures look like meangingless abstract shapes to me.  I see no faces of spirits in them at all, even though some ITC researchers obviously do.  
I believe the human brain can fool us all greatly.  
However, there may be some knock down evidence out there for survival of the human spirit yet.  I shall have to keep looking.  I may find it one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as long as we do not know the limits of the human mind, and I guess we never will do, such things will always be open to speculation and argument.<br />
Even some of those ITC pictures look like meangingless abstract shapes to me.  I see no faces of spirits in them at all, even though some ITC researchers obviously do.<br />
I believe the human brain can fool us all greatly.<br />
However, there may be some knock down evidence out there for survival of the human spirit yet.  I shall have to keep looking.  I may find it one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank sumption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank sumption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguing and name calling is pointless. I don&#039;t know exactly how the box is used out in the world, I don&#039;t do &quot;investigations&quot; or ghost hunting, and I don&#039;t believe in hauntings. I don&#039;t sell this stuff, although a couple &quot;users&quot; have paid for parts--like $200, which doesn&#039;t even cover labor. The point is, personaly, I&#039;m not out here ripping off people, I do this work for my own curiosity. I get &quot;voices&quot; that should not exist, and I use a veriety of EVP methods, the box being just one method that supplies a&quot;raw&quot; audio. 


 I am offended by people that stand up all smug, laughing at the rest of us as if they know anything, as if science has discovered everything, and everything is known. Seems like they made that claim at the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries, everything was known and all inventions had been made. It&#039;s the same pompus story in the 21st century. It&#039;s always ignore all evidence, close the ears and eyes and proclaim there is no evidence. 

 Y&#039;ll are so smart, why don&#039;t you build your own box to experiment with? 

 Frank Sumption</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing and name calling is pointless. I don&#8217;t know exactly how the box is used out in the world, I don&#8217;t do &#8220;investigations&#8221; or ghost hunting, and I don&#8217;t believe in hauntings. I don&#8217;t sell this stuff, although a couple &#8220;users&#8221; have paid for parts&#8211;like $200, which doesn&#8217;t even cover labor. The point is, personaly, I&#8217;m not out here ripping off people, I do this work for my own curiosity. I get &#8220;voices&#8221; that should not exist, and I use a veriety of EVP methods, the box being just one method that supplies a&#8221;raw&#8221; audio. </p>
<p> I am offended by people that stand up all smug, laughing at the rest of us as if they know anything, as if science has discovered everything, and everything is known. Seems like they made that claim at the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries, everything was known and all inventions had been made. It&#8217;s the same pompus story in the 21st century. It&#8217;s always ignore all evidence, close the ears and eyes and proclaim there is no evidence. </p>
<p> Y&#8217;ll are so smart, why don&#8217;t you build your own box to experiment with? </p>
<p> Frank Sumption</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Spork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Spork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that a single individual simply sitting in on two sessions with this TttD device hardly counts as scientific grounds to either prove or dismiss the effectiveness of the device. 

I also have to question what makes Shermer himself immune from the effects of pre-session priming: If someone is predisposed to hearing voices in the the chaos, then it stands to reason that someone predisposed to not hearing said voices has the potential to fall victim to the same effect. Scientifically, one must eliminate both beliefs before such an experiment could be considered valid. 

Con games do abound, but if Shermer plans to out these individuals as fraud, he&#039;ll need some actual evidence to hang them with, rather than just his own personal opinion of the device&#039;s performance.

Maun: Perhaps the therapist you&#039;re going to see has no other motive than to actually help, she just has a methodology that doesn&#039;t fit with your own belief system. Remember, not everyone out there is trying to take you for a ride. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that a single individual simply sitting in on two sessions with this TttD device hardly counts as scientific grounds to either prove or dismiss the effectiveness of the device. </p>
<p>I also have to question what makes Shermer himself immune from the effects of pre-session priming: If someone is predisposed to hearing voices in the the chaos, then it stands to reason that someone predisposed to not hearing said voices has the potential to fall victim to the same effect. Scientifically, one must eliminate both beliefs before such an experiment could be considered valid. </p>
<p>Con games do abound, but if Shermer plans to out these individuals as fraud, he&#8217;ll need some actual evidence to hang them with, rather than just his own personal opinion of the device&#8217;s performance.</p>
<p>Maun: Perhaps the therapist you&#8217;re going to see has no other motive than to actually help, she just has a methodology that doesn&#8217;t fit with your own belief system. Remember, not everyone out there is trying to take you for a ride. ;)</p>
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